April 23rd, 2008

Gyurcsány and Surányi: Similarly taxing names, similarly bad ideas about taxes

suranyi-gyurcsany.jpgRenowned former Hungarian National Bank president György Surányi and not-so-renowned and likely soon-to-be-former Hungarian Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsány not only have family names that sound akin. They also seem to be regular family when it comes to offering bad ideas for dealing with Hungary’s dysfunctional and enterprise-destroying tax system. Since “G” comes before “S,” I might as well start with Gyurcsány’s latest wince-making plan, which also has the benefit of basically being nothing.

According to this report on fn.hu, Gyurcsány took the opportunity presented by a meeting with a visiting German provincial politician to say that Hungary is not interested in winning over foreign investors by offering low taxes or business costs, and would rather focus on its “performance.”

Whatever Gyurcsány meant by this – probably that he wants the country to be known for being a center of highly-skilled labor and high-quality infrastructure – it is, to be blunt, idiotic.

For one thing, the success Hungary has had in recent decades in attracting FDI has been mostly due to its cost advantages compared to places like Germany, not least the generous tax “holidays” granted to early investors (many of which are now expiring, leading some of the investors looking to get out).

Meanwhile, while making his “pitch,” Gyurcsány noted that Hungary is interested in promoting tourism, vehicle manufacturing, logistics and biotechnology, industries that are hardly immune to cost pressures. Indeed, Hungary’s crucial tourism and car-making sectors are both reeling from the loss of the cost advantages they enjoyed in previous years.

But what really takes the cake is the idea Gyurcsány really thinks Hungary is or can offer potential investors “performance” with its economy yoked to a state as greedy, inept and incentive-destroying as the one he runs. He isn’t offering a choice between performance and low-cost: he’s offering neither.

Unsure Surányi
Meanwhile, Surányi’s diagnoses and remedies are only barely less toxic.

In a television interview on Sunday, the man largely credited with giving early-1990s Hungary a degree of monetary stability denounced the arguments of some – including by sitting MNB chief András Simor – that tax reform should be paired with a major paring back of government spending, saying a significant cutting of social transfers would cause a “nightmare.”

While Surányi is unfortunately correct in saying that state spending cannot be quickly back from the current 48%-49% of GDP to the 32%-36% seen in Slovakia, by openly saying so he only serves to stoke the pipedreams of those like Gyurcsány believe there is some pleasant way out of the country’s current crisis. On the contrary, he should be saying it needs to happen immediately, so there is at least a chance it can happen someday before the economy simply dries up and blows away.

Worse, Surányi takes a good idea – shifting taxation from production to consumption – and turns it on its head by suggesting a rise in Hungary’s already high VAT rate, the manipulation of which is one of the largest drains on productivity in the country. Raise the rate 1%, and all you will get is Hungarians spending 2% more of their time trying to get that 1% back.

What Surányi – and Gyurcsány – need to be instead doing is loudly informing whoever will listen that the “nightmare” is in fact already upon Hungary, in the form of a state that somehow ended up paying large parts of the working-age population not to work – or to engage in otherwise non-productive, state-centered economic activities – while keeping the other part busy avoiding the taxes needed to pay for it. Without dealing with the former, nothing can be done about the latter. And without fixing the latter, no one will invest in this economy, whether or not they know how to pronounce “Surányi” or “Gyurcsány.”

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  1. Viking says:

    The Hungarian competitive edge cannot be to be the cheapest any more, we cannot fight the Chinese etc. It has to be something else. Whatever that will be, it will take some time before it will be combined with being the most expensive though.

    Being on the route from the more eastern production plants in the EU, which will for a long time be cheaper, logistics seems like a good idea, but it cannot be the only one. If you check the trucks driving west to Austria/Germany, 75% of them are Romanians. Here some innovative ideas are needed.

    As I understood Hungary is also the port of entry for much of the Chinese stuff coming to Europe. This has been done through a dedicated policy for many years, of course attacked by the extreme right. I know there have been plans to embrace Chinese tourism into Hungary and if that finally succeeds, it can lead to a lot more Chinese faces on the streets of Budapest. The problem will of course be the anti-Chinese sentiments the extreme right will try to whip up.

  2. Sicko says:

    Let’s not even talk about China, there is no way that Hungary can compete against it. What Hungary can do is be a competitive place in the CEE and SEE region. This includes using its competitive edge in, off all things, cheap-ish labor. The high taxes need to come down, so as to at least begin to place Hungary at an even level with surrounding countries. Then, after reforming education – particularly higher education – Hungary can come up with some unique competitive advantages. It’s hard to see with the current stalled economy and political environment how Hungary can even maintain its current position. Rather I think we can all see that the country is only sinking without immediate movement on these two fronts. I may have a life jacket, in the form of a different passport, but I’m not ready to bail yet. Maybe I’m stupid or optimistic, but let’s just hope the politicians put the people first soon. Otherwise, Hungary will be known as the worst performer in Europe – oh, it already is.

  3. John Simpson says:

    The amount of illegal Chinese product and Chinese people in Hungary is huge. The consumer may benefit by the availability of cheap merchandise, but the country does not benefit at all, as most of the goods are sold without reciept and most of the revenues are sent home to China to relatives and family.

    If you look at most of the Chinese markets in Budapest, they are rats dens of fake goods and less than respectible types we could probably do without.

    It is not an extremist view, just the truth. I hope that the Hungarian goverment has far more stringent immigration requirements than we have in the UK. here it is out of control!

    There is no competetive advantage to importing inferior goods and destroying our homemade industries (what little remain)

  4. Poetically Yours, Rolrox says:

    Nobody wants to administer the medicine, and each day that passes without embarking on a fix of the root causes simply postpones and feeds the eventual pain.

    MSzP will not do anything until their term ends, and have no incentive to step down early. When elections come, no party will win a mandate for anything radical. Only MDF have proposed (semi-)workable ideas; but these are only “keeping up with the Jones-ovas” (over in SK, PL …) and they’re the same ideas – at the same rates. How can such attract or win back investment? I doubt there’s a quick cure but at least one can stem the leak.

    How can GY claim to offer “performance”> The policies run in the opposite direction. If it were true it would encourage entrepreneurs, attract “brain trust” type investment, and develop HU own elite. Instead, the policies hold those who can think in contempt. They would rather tax investors (and their staff) in penury. This ethos forces on people criminality & evasion. And it punishes those who remain and try to make it work. Yet I see HU continues to attract FDI. Are these investors doing their homework or are they delusional? And if the latter, do we want them near our kids?

    As with prices, high taxes work if people submit to them in order to gain something that is scarcer abroad. What is it that HU has that cannot be found elsewhere in CEE/SEE for less? If no, then all we can do is lie back & listen to the whistling of the wind and watch the tumbleweeds go by.

  5. Viking says:

    John Simpson: “The amount of illegal Chinese product and Chinese people in Hungary is huge.”

    To clarify – There exist illegal products in Hungary, maybe most of it is from China, like most of all products are from China, legal or not. All Chinese products are not illegal, and they do pay import duties to the Hungarian State.

    Outside the Chinese markets I hardly see any Chinese/Asian people in Hungary. I see more in Sweden. I do not know where J.S. drifts around, but the ones he refers to are workers, not tourists. If he knew the APEH he would know that they love to check out the different Chinese markets, so some of the money comes back that way. I also never noticed it was any problem to buy without receipt in any “Hungarian” shop. I do it every day. Was J.S. refused a receipt when he asked for it in a Chinese shop, or he never where there?

    Tourists spend money locally (that is here in Hungary), regardless if they are from Beijing, China or Paris, Texas.

  6. Vándorló says:

    @John,

    It’s a shame you never read the articles in HVG and Figyelő (6 and 4 months ago respectively) about the Chinese businesses and people here in Hungary. They collectively are pouring far more into this economy and their businesses are part of the Hungarian high street in lots of hidden forms. These include banking, clothing, engineering, electronics… The proportion of illegal Chinese workers is insignificant compared to the number of legal workers. And as any Hungarian government would know it is in Hungary’s long term interests to make sure the Chinese see Hungary as their base in Europe.

    The ‘Chinese Market’ and it’s like are populated more by Hungarians, Poles, Vietnamese, Russians and Bulgarians than by Chinese.

    Really, go back and have a look and do an unbiased visual count.

    Also start reading the local financial papers rather than listing to your inner prejudices.