The Pécs local government sent security guards to occupy the headquarters of the city’s waterworks Pécsi Vízművek and prevented the management of the French investor group Suez from entering the building on Monday morning. Suez, meanwhile, refused to let the new city-appointed management into the building.
Pécs has cancelled the water service contract from the end of September and wants to repurchase a minority stake in it.
Fidesz mayor Zsolt Páva decided to sell Pécs’s 48% minority stake to Suez for Ft 330 million in 1995. The city council now says Suez takes too much profit from the waterworks and prevents it from getting a clear picture of what is going on at its 17 subsidiaries.
“Suez still has valid contracts with 17 communities in the Pécs environs, whose water supply is now threatened because the old management cannot work,” Pécsi Vízművek sales manager Judit Kamarás said.
“If 20 commandos arrive at 3 a.m. and occupy somewhere, that is not a European solution, and is undoubtedly illegal,” Kamarás asserted, adding that Pécsi Vízművek CEO István Nyári is currently on holiday.
The staff at Pécsi Vízművek have had to sign a declaration that they are on a two-week paid holiday, after which they will be employed by the new company.
Suez management are considering taking the case through diplomatic channels.
Man – this just says it all.
well this companies have to stay in Hungarian hands, like powerplants ect in the first place!
And about europian solutions….who cares! Those are only destroying the country, like all other countries in the EU…
It is high time to kick these assorted Western hyenas and piranhas out of the country, and never let any of them back in again. The Frogs are clearly the lowest of the lowest level scum when it comes to reputable companies.
The Pec government sold the water plant. It received money in the sale to the French company. The Pec politicians squandered the money on their friends, hookers, palinka, and vacations. Now they want the plant back. It dont work that way. And more of this is to come. Hungary will have to sell off Balaton water rights to pay back just the interest to the IMF loan. This is happening in the US also. And the money has also been squandered as well.
@deng feng, your comments do not make any more sense now than before.
For starters, the article seems to be seriously flawed. It states that “Fidesz mayor Zsolt Páva decided to sell Pécs’s 48% minority stake to Suez for Ft 330 million in 1995.”
Here is my question: Considering that Mr. Pava had been elected mayor of the City of Pecs only a few months ago this year, how the fuck could he have sold anything to anyone as mayor way back in the year 1995? The numbers don’t make any fucking sense!
Also, the U.S. is definitely NOT in the same situation as basket case Hungary is, deng feng. Never was and never will be, either. In fact, a large chunck of the IMF money given to Hungary as “loans” is actually U.S. money.
The United States and IMF may in fact buy Hungary lock, stock, and barrel. But Hungary will never own even a chunk of the USA. Or the IMF, for that matter. Do you follow, deng feng?
Bela, I agree with your comments that the USA and IMF own/will own, Hungary in its entirety.
EU/IMF money squandered in huge amounts in Hungary and et al is commonplace. It happened in the UK.
I have continually posed the same question on these sites: “Where is, and what has happened to, the
billions of euros loaned by IMF/EU/US to Hungary in the past eighteen months???
The water sport scandal is hilarious. Private enterprise versus corrupt commie councils wanting their ball back when they are getting thrashed ten
nil.
Bela–Páva Zsolt WAS Pécs mayor for a brief period in the 199o’s,the only time the Socialist/commie hold on the city was broken,until now.
He did sell off the holdings to Suez,but now he is back they are unhappy with excessive profits,take over of regional water supplies etc… (not in the original agreement) The local Gov. cancelled the supply contract perfectly legally (Pava Zsolt is a lawyer by the way) and offered to buy out the Suez service contract at a fair market price–the offer got NO response from Suez,who showing typical multi-corporation arrogance,simply ignored it.Thus this showdown.
At last someone takes a stand in Hungary,and in ‘Red’ Pécs of all places
@Ricsi, thanks for the lowdown on Pecs. Look like in Hungary, they recycle their old leaders. I mean…. the Old Pava and the new Pava as mayor. The old Orban and the new Orban az PM? Gee-whiz, Louise!!!
On the other hand, if you look at what is going in Bolivia, Venezuela, and many other parts of the world, governments are re-purchasing privatized companies. They can do this because they have the money to do so, and the willpower. Latest round was in Bolivia, the ones who sold back to the state willingly were rewarded by getting market price for their stuff, the holdouts were severely penalized. If the state would have given notice of intended privatization and the company in question would not even have bothered to respond, el Presidente would have simply sent in the troops and nationalized the company, and this time probably without paying any compensation. This is how it all went in Cuba also in the late 1950s and early 1960s.
Having said all this, this Pava chap does not seem to be a real market economy biznicman. He first sells the city-owned water works to the Frenchies — and now, a few years later, wants to buy it back from them? Didn’t he think that a for-profit company would want to buy it TO MAKE A PROFIT WITH IT? Now that they do, the “Pecs patriots” do not like it? Too weird.
Anyhow, Pecs looks like crap. The train station is crumbling, the overpasses are crumbling, Balokany Strand is crumbling, and Szechenyi ter looks like shit. Too bad, really.
All that is missing to magyar politics is courage to speak their opinion in front of the world, even if the press (american, especialy) say. The exemples of Venezuela and Bolivia are very good. First it was infuriation all over the world. And now? Chavez is respected, everybody listens to him! Because he is a real man! And IMF/US and all shit have to stay out of our country. Jobs will appear for us, not paid miserably, but good, magyar investors will have priority. All the shit with “diplomatic chanels” is idiotic! Get rid of foreigners and make comerce only by reciprocal understanding, as Venezuela and Bolivia do very well. Chavez and Morales can be models for Hungary,and not the shit bags from Brusel.
Are the prices in the 17 communities served by Suez higher than the rest of HU? If this is the case, strange that such wasn’t mentioned. If it’s not, then we have an interesting angle. Effectively according to Pecs Suez has managed, using the prevailing rates to run the waterworks more effectively than previously when it seemingly wasn’t profitable and Pecs sold such off.
Following on from the fact that Suez might run this better than the earlier management, we can consider… why couldn’t earlier management have done the same? Was it due to corruption, incompetence, lack of modern equipment, knowledge, et al…
How can the city of Pecs argue on the one hand that the company is too profitable and on the other, that it doesn’t have enough information? Or go further to sack the management team – if it doesn’t know what’s going on?
Suez say the want to work through diplomatic channels while the city of Pecs thinks drama and public spectacles is a better way to achieve its objectives.
As to objectives, does ensuring continuity of service count?
@Rolrox. Dont tell me about coruption and eficiency. These companies are foreign, and magyars should not sell their own country to foreigners, french, americans or jews or whichever. See what hapened all this years, especialy after crises, because of them. Magyars can do best in Hungary here. Jobs and bisnis have to be hungarians in Hungary! Infact, you seem to be a kind of spokeman for these french guys.
Exactly so, hiany. It makes me sick to my stomach how these pathetic Hungarian foot soldiers of Tel Aviv and Brussels and Washington even dare to call themselves “Socialists.”
I had always thought that Messrs. Castro, Chavez, Morales, etc. are in fact “Socialists.” Whereas Messrs. Gyurcsany, Bajnai, et all are nothing more but rotting piles of human shit.
On the other hand, with Hungary, it is always the “blame-someone-else” game, isn’t it now? I mean…. the Pecs water works was crap and broke, they couldn’t fix it, so they sold it off to the Frenchies. After they Frenchies have fixed it, now the city wants it back? Or else? Amazing shit… Why didn’t Pava just LEASE the water works for 5-10-15-20 years, as hotel bldgs are frequently leased, instead of being sold outright to the firm operating it?
Mr. Pava may be a competent attorney and patriotic civic leader, but he definitely did not graduate at the top of his class at Harvard Business School, hmmm? Maybe from the Karl Marx University of Economics?
@ Jorge. You are perfectly right. We Hungarians do not sell our country! Only some traitors or “foot-soldiers”, as you named them, sell this country, her land, her beauties and wealth! And enough with all this namby-pamby discussing of “solvency”, “debts” a.s.o. If politicians will call a referendum on the right to have property in Hungary, you will be surprised by the results! After this kind of referendum, no land could be sold to foreigners, no company could be started without a majority of Hungarian capital, and all workers have to be hungarians. And the biggest percentage (even seventy percent, if possible) of the companies profits have to be invested only in Hungary, and not transferred to banks abroad. That would be the good future for us, Hungarians. I am waiting for such a referendum, much more important because is about our motherlands wealth and our daily bread stolen by thiefs from outside. Maybe we will not wait long untill somebody in politics has the courage of puting this problem.
The whole issue of land ownership by “foreign
nationals is foolish (maybe they’ll come and dig
up the soil and take it away!).
Consider that young Hungarians don’t like farming
and most farms are small non-profitable
enterprises lacking modern technology run by hand
to mouth peasants. Who will invest to bring things
up to the level of the rest of Europe? (I mean,
ask yourself why are most of the fruit and veg
found ANYWHERE in Hungary from abroad?).
Oh, and just in case you’ve forgotten, Hungary has
to/will allow land to be sold to all EU citizens
in 2011. It’s not WHO owns the land…it’s how
it’s put to profitable use.
PS Chavez has oil…that’s why peeps listen. Now,
what does Hungary have that other want that will
allow it to start nationalizing foreign
businesses?
It is a difficult situation. The local governments are bankrupt. They need cash now and up-front. But they have no expertise in selling/leasing assets and never will; the same mistakes by local government are occurring in the US. In fact many more losses are happening in the US so it is a systemic issue of stupidity combined with fraud. The only solution is to impose a very limited government structure. Magyarorszag need about 10 mayors and about 500 bearucrats. But the fraud will continue by politicans as it is a license to steal from the People. Always was and always will be. Otherwise the USSr would have been the richest society on eart. But most people never learn.
Can no company in Hungary run a waterworks efficiently and honestly? Have we all become corrupt Roma here? It feels like Rumania.
In most countries of the world, real estate and especially land ownership is strictly restricted. A country that sells and even gives away its agricultural land to any and all foreign riff-raff is nothing but a two-bit whore. Case in point: Hungary under the yolk of the Socialists.
No matter what exact composition the new national government will be in Hungary next year, one thig is for sure: the feeding frenzy of the free-for-all smorgasbord of Israeli and Western eco-piranhas will come to a swift and unglamorous closure.
It will about God damn time, too.
@deng feng, you continue to confuse then United States of America with little chicken-feed category Hungary. To you, they are really the same thing, hmmm?
@litlle lamb. You make the judgements of a little jewish merchant. Land and property is nowhere given to foreigners, and that shit about EU is a lie. Magyars gave land to those wild beasts, they rented again for nothing and sold products outside and broght them back in country. That’s how TESCO works, don’ you know, or TESCO don’t have stores in Tel Aviv? Chavez is strong because he brought peace, prosperity and economic freedom to his people, not because of goddam oil! Chavez is a strong politician, is not dependent of anyone, and everybody in the world respects him and his words. Only some press you know better tries to paint him in colors who disadvantage him. That guy has a vision, and the next Prime minister in Hungary will not have it, for sure. But he will have to be strong and to set magyar point of view to foreigners: you stay here for uour people alone, or you go tomorow!
The practical question is what will MagyarOrszag have to sell next? The Balaton? Vaci utca? Carpathians? All street parking spaces in Budapest? Margitsziget? Csepel? Roszadom? castle Hill? The metro? these are all possibilities to raise revenue (for the politicians to steal). Big Hungarian government comes with Big Fraud. No end in sight.
It is time to kick these French profiteers out of Hungary!!! They already control most of the gas and power supplies and mow it seems the water!!
After what they inflicted on Hungary with Trianon, they should take their asses back to their own countries and make their money off the backs of their bulging ethnic north African immigrants!
klimax: All your bleating will not change the FACT
that Hungarian land will be for sale to all comers
in 2011. You use sweeping statements but offer no
practical or realistic solutions. Anyone can do
that! Show me a plan. And try and do it without
mentioning Jews!
Most of these entities should remain in hungarian hands. I believe the university/engineering pograms are strong enough that they can manage a waterplant properly. They also probably need some help managing the business aspect, accounting,etc. But the major problem is that the cities,counties have over promised to their constituents (free school, welfare, disability, free roads, free medical/dental/ocular, early retirement, government theft without repurcussion, free bus, subsidized this and that). The cities cant borrow- thank God. But they can continue to sell assets. Pec will be selling soon be sellin major buildings and parking spaces and bus routes and public lands to generate monies.
@John Simpson, that is a great idea and on-spot regarding the Frogs, a nation of people uniformly despised the world over. I mean, who is actually an “ally” or a “friend” of France of the Froggies? I can’t think of any such country or person, actually…
Yet the question remains, why did the Socialist hyenas open up Hungary’s floodgates and let the Frog piranhas in to wreak havoc?
Little lamb sez: “try and do it without mentioning Jews!”
MY RELATED QUESTION; What on Earth for, my good friend? Don’t you know that the Jews are the root of all major problems of Mankind since time immemorial?
@Hiany and the others of that ilk here… I wonder why come here, to an EN website that is concerned about HU … and spout xenophobia.
Aside from the blaringly obvious that not all people in a country are the same or have the same characteristics… Or that the world is bigger than just one little HU household and therefore must interact to trade products, resources, etc… Or that being openly bigotted is just nauseating… what is most amazing is the inability to actually address the points and questions raised.
There’s this immature desire here to whine about the “Usual Scapegoats,” but no mental facilities are applied to discuss points. Hiany for example would rather let lose diatribes about me being spokesmen for people I don’t even know … but cannot be bothered to consider what I actually wrote about… namely that there were inconsistencies in the story, and why such things weren’t considered and what they might imply.
Poorly thought through arguments that depend upon prejudice to further a point are, well, perhaps good enough for the uneducated… and if that’s what works here with HUs then that’s a sad comment indeed. It’s like a magic show, the audience is too busy staring at the assistant to watch what is really going on.
I guess for Hiany its more important to miss the obvious than consider it. Or that’s Hiany’s real intent, namely to obscure. At least “hiány” is being true to his name means …
@rolrox.Evrybody come here because he cares about Hungary and hungarians. Somebody say here about schools for magyar specialists and need for Hungary to run its own busines. I totaly agree to that!!! Enough with all this shit about who’s thinking and who’s working in Hungary! Foreigners should know that we, the real citizens of Hungary, dont sell our country! We are working, we are not “thinking”!
@rolrox: help me out here for a second, please. Is this ‘xenophobia’ bit you are talking about, is it something you take up in the rectum, or what the heck is it exactly? Thanx for the expected xplain, friend.
Also, is ‘xenophobia’ soluble in water? Since it is WATER we are supposed to be discussing here, Mr. Xenohead.
@hiany. You put it so good once again, for men like rolrox and liitle lamb to understand. What’s “xenophobia”? Is a kind of patriotism, exagerated, but patriotism. And you said of measures to be taken with magyar scols and specialist and namby pamby “thinkers” payed from foreigners money. We must repeat untill the whole world understand: Magyars do not sell their land! They work, do not “think”, as those treasonous guys want them to do!
Right on, Klimax!
Xenophobia (sometimes known as patriotism) is a mental sickness where the diseased think they know how to run a country. It is usually treatable if discovered early, but often ends in economic dispair, defeat in war, loss of territory and prolonged depression.
@K…whatever. Is this a kind of funny, wise guy? Dou you want to say to me that all really responsive people here are looneys?
@Klimax – Why is it funny? I was only agreeing with you. You only described xenophobia as patriotism.
I simply went further and also described patriotism to those who aren’t familiar with that word. Relax, we are on the same side.
@klimax, look out my good man, as there are many prefessional saboteurs congregating on this wonderful web site. You can usually tell which ones these are from their Russian and Ukrainian and Chinese handles, and by the fact that such jerks use many pseudonyms.
Most of these are foreign refuseniks and alienated bastards who were kicked out of their own homeland for one reason or the other, and inadvertently ended up exiled in Hungary and elsewhere. Notorious Foreign Legion type of no scruples adventurers, scam artists, confidence tricksters, grifters, welfare recipients. And some of them are mouthpieces of multinational corporations and other imperialistic cancer sores orchestrated by Israeli and so-called “Western” intertests.
A really nasty bunch, in other words.
@ivan… So, was i right? Patriotic guys are not xenophobic? Not all of them, but when they are xenophobic they do good for this country.
@bela.All people of this sort are very easy to be detected, not by signature who i usualy false but by treasonous, anti-patriotic atitudes they spread all the time. I am sick of them. Nobody can get them out of Budapest, at least?
@klimax, once the Jobbik Party rises to power, all these domestic and foreign vermin will scatter ever so quickly, like when you turn on the light and all the cockroaches are running for cover.
@Bela.You have just said that “once the Jobbik Party rises to power, all these domestic and foreign vermin will scatter ever so quickly, like when you turn on the light and all the cockroaches are running for cover.” So “quickly”? All these “cockroaches” will run etc. etc?
Will they “scatter” so quickly? Well, it announces the use of political repression, and you look to be sure that somebody will definitely will use immediate repression against groups of people seen as dangerous (I am sure they are, of course). Should we expect a coup d’ etat followed by a state of emmergency? When you talked about that quick “scattering” had you in mind political action and leaders for this action? Or maybe there are already people who already envisage such steady action? A clear-cut answer from your part could be extremely interesting, as far as you named a political party of this country’s Parliament.
@hess, I just don’t rightly know. I merely make up the krazy stuff as I move along the river of b.s.
klimax : “All people of this sort are very easy to
be detected, not by signature who i usualy false
but by treasonous, anti-patriotic atitudes they
spread all the time. I am sick of them. Nobody can
get them out of Budapest, at least?”
So you lot will doubtless come down hard on all
those (Hungarians) that gave permission for these
horrible foreigners to set up their businesses
here. Along with all those (Hungarians)who
benefited by selling their properties to expats.
Along with those (Hungarians)who continue to
support them by using their shops ie Tesco,Ikea
etc. In fact anyone (Hungarian)who buys anything
imported.
A the end of the day Hungarians are to “blame” for
all these perceived ills. But it’s so much easier
to point the finger elsewhere.
The real problem is one of lack of forward long
term vision. So….lets go backwards!
For a country of so few peeps to imagine “going it
alone”, and with very limited resources, well, you
only option is to become a tax haven….ah but
that would still be with the dreaded foreigners
money!
@little lamb, all we need in Hungary is a strong-willed leader who does not mind prosecuting maybe 3,000 of the top rotten Socies and Commies. Toss them to prison ’till they rot, or give them the gallows, we don’t really care. Just get them out of circulation and out of our sight.
Things did not get better in Latin America until nations of Central and South America unceremoniously kicked out the Yanks and the riff-raff foreigner blood sucker leeches and took matters into their own hands.
Closer to home, the Romanians machine gunned the Ciaucescus to death, yet in Hungary, the same old Socies and Commies are selling out our country dirt cheap to the foreign riff-raff hyenas and piranhas.
Not country ever got enywhere, let alone ahead, by permitting multinationals and unscrupulous foreign investors to rape and pillage it.
@Bela. So, you have in mind a “strong-willed leader”. If this leader does exist, can you name him? Can you ennumerate (but calmly and orderly) some points of his political group’s program? Can you remind us the name of this poltical group? I learnt from you only something about “socies”, “commies” who were supposed to populate Hungarian prisons (and some of them to go to the gallows – by the way, does the death penalty still exist in Hungary? will it be reinstated by those “strong-willed” leaders?). So, take a deep breath, compose yourself, and try to answer to the questions above. It would be better for all the readers of this site, I suppose. If you still do not anderstand what I am humbly asking you, let me offer you som simple hints. You only have to give answer like the following ones: “The strong willed leader is A.” “The party is B.The program for rapid recovery of the economy has the following points: 1, 2, 3, etc.” There is another option left instead of all these above: “I do not know any leader of this sort.” “I do not know any political group and any party having such a program.” Afterwards, there is only an extremely simple fact left for you: to definitely state that you were lying in your previous messages posted above, or that you were in a confused mental state in which you did not make any distinction between your dreams and this country’s everyday reality.
@Hess – dont try to twist Bela’s words! He said Hungary needs a strong-willed leader.
Bela did not say anything about the leader being intelligent, or knowing how to draft up a clearly enumerated program which works or makes sense.
@hess: kindly go back to the sandbox and pay with your underdeveloped pee-pee, you little infantile jerk.
@Ivan, can you believe the meddling foreign scum we’ve gotta get rid off, huh?
@Bela. You did not answer to any of the questions, despite of their extreme simplicity. So the position of lying to all other people posting on this blog is convenient for you. It is entirely your business. All other insults you spread here are simply a matter of cowardice: you know you are hidden, nobody is able to detect you, therefore you write all kind of disgusting things. You probably know that you could not do this in a normal public place. It is your pleasure, probably: you remind me of those masked young people breaking the windows of the banks in Athens some months ago. They did that because they wore those masks. If you are a young man, you still have time to think about these things.
P.S. By the way, those people in Athens were openly “commies”; you mistakenly consider the leaders of this country as belonging to the same family. Your discourse against foreign corporations is very communist, actually. Do not bother to answer to this message: I am simply sick of lunatic people hurling around my city and shouting non-digested fragments of extremist ideologies.
@hess, like I was kind enough to suggest to you just the other day, it seems, kindly go back to the sandbox and play with your underdeveloped pee-pee, you little infantile jerk in the service of the wretched multinational hyenas.
I can hardly believe the meddling foreign scum we’ve got congregating and commenting on this here web site. The lowest of the low (like this hess puppet, for instance).
hess, whatever you are spreading here is the fodder of cowards. You know that your identity is hidden, so most likely you cannot be detected for who you really are, therefore you write all kind of disgusting things and viciously attack me and I take it many others.
It is YOU who remind me of those masked Commies breaking the windows of the banks and stores and cars and burning them in Athens a couple of months ago.
Finally, you write about “your city.” Old, useless farts like you likely have no city to call their own, buddy.
@Bela. I only repeated twice (and in a very civil manner) a list of questions regarding some very serious statements of yours. I never received any coherent answer, but only insults. Some of them were repeated twice, or even thrice. Please, let every Hungarian to decide his/her degree of national belonging. You definitely are not able to do such a thing, if you are able to answer simple questions only with insults. But I am through with people like you. Fare well!
@hess, regarding your grandfather, the Nazis did not want to have anything to do with him. And the Brits tossed his ass into prison. Touche!
So, what are you braghging about now, trying to pass yourself off as Southern Transdanubia’s resident water purification eggspert? I am sure that you are all talk, but there is nothing solid behind you.
Well, was I right?
@ Bela. You must be right! It is impossible for you to be otherwise!!!
A great logician of the XXth century (and a fighter against communist regime in USSR, by the way; but these details are not of any use for you) wrote: “Usually, the idiots’ logic is irrefutable.” I am sorry to tell you, but these words apply perfectly to your lines above and to many of your hurling imprecations. Please do not take this too personally – it is meant to be just a friendly remark, in order to help you.
P.S. By the way, haven’t you any, but any information on WWII, Germany and its leaders in that period? As far as I know, these are topics for high school classes in our country! But probably you have not take any degree. Who knows, for the pure Hungarian future you want to live in, grammar school could be enough for hungarian citizens… Plus internet and patriotism, as much patriotism as possible.
P.P.S. This time is for good. Fare thou well.
@hess, your Ingles does not impress me too much, Senior.
As to the rest of your lengthy diatribe-monolog having got nothing to do with Pecs, Transdanubia, Hungary, or water, all I can say is: get a life, hess. And some fresh brain cells into your decaying skull probably would not hurt, either.
Bela gets his kicks from entering each forum
discussion under a different name and insulting
everyone in sight. Grow up, Bela, and get a life.
On WW2 and water: Churchill, F Roosevelt, Landau (Soviet spy in the FDR adminsitration) drew up very specific plans to contaminate Hungary/Germany water supply with anthrax. The stated purpose was to terrorize the civilian population, turn both countries into unpopulated pasture land. They make stalin look like a choir boy in comparison. However, as the French were mostly collaborators, I am more likely to trust them with the water supply. But you never know.
@Brian, take your nastiness elsewhere, please. You obviosuly have got nothing to contribute to the article above regarding the water situation in Pecs. I do, since I am from there and lived there for many years in the past.
So, either say someething useful for the rest of us, or else shut your trap door real tight, buddy.
@deng feng, I know all about the Western garbage powers and their mass-murderous anthrax and other mass poison experiments in World War Two. Messrs. Churchill and Roosevelt made Messrs. Hitler and Stalin look like Nobel Peace Prize candidates in comparison.
@Beju – if you lived there, perhaps you can tell us why you couldn’t run a waterworks profitably. It’s not exactly a rocket science.
Ivan Katchakokov, you Russkie nogoodnik: who the heck is this “Beju,” Fool?
Also, I cannot run any waterworks anywhere profitably or unprofitably, because I am not in the water business. Never has been, either. Nor will be, either.
To me, it is like rocket science, don’t you even get that, man?
@Bela, if you are from Pécs and so interested in the
subject, then how come all you are able to
contribute to the discussion is diatribe. Don’t you
have anything more useful to do in your spare time?
Perhaps if you have genuinely useful opinions or
suggestions you might like to share them rather than
just behaving like an 8 year old.
“if you are from Pécs…”
@Brian, there is no “if” about it, Buddy Boy. I am from Pecs. No “if,” “but,” or “matbe.” Why, what is to you? And since we are on the subject, let me ask youy this: just where the heck are YOU from, eh?
“…how come all you are able to contribute to the discussion is diatribe.”
MY RESPONSE: Because, like I said it before, I am not in the water business, You Fool! All I know about the water business that when I trurn the tap knob, fresh water comes out of the faucet.
Get it, any of, Brian the Almighty Wise-Ass?
“Don’t you have anything more useful to do in your spare time?”
MY POINTED ANSWER: I certainly do have much better things to do with my time that bicker back-and-forth with low-level bumpkin-pumpkins with foreign-sounding stupid names.
“Brian”… now, does that have to do something with “brain,” or the lack of it, I wonder?
“Perhaps if you have genuinely useful opinions or
suggestions you might like to share them rather than just behaving like an 8 year old.”
MY SUMAMRY: Brian, you are an arsehole. Instead of saying ANYTHING even remotely related to the article we are supposed to be commenting on, all you can come up with is some tired old personal crap aimed against me and realdeal.hu.
Please, do all of us Hungarians a huge favor, Buddy. Go back to the country where they actually call your kind “Brian.” We really do not need your economic refugee pariah kind in Hungary, you know. You are, my man, a lot less than no-use.
@Bela, given your comments back to me, I wonder what
exactly you believe you are contributing to this
topic as you now admitted twice you know nothing
about the subject. Reading the various posts from
you here and on caboodle under a host of different
names, you appear to be a troubled person. If this
is how you spend your evenings, consider finding
some social activities that don’t involve a
computer. On the other hand, maybe you feel you are
just being hilariously funny. In which case, sorry,
but no.
(Now cue some more verbal diahorrea from Bela)
@Brian, kindly re-read what I wrote to you beforehand, buddy boy, since you obviously do not get squat. Listen, Analbrain: YOU contribute ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to this topic, you dumb jerk with the foreign-sounding stupid name.
Brian: you are but a piece of fermenting human shit, buddy. No wonder Hungarians hate your kind of good-4-nothing foreigners with a burning passion.
Bela, well it’s clear enough that you hate me for
reasons best known to yourself. Other Hungarians I
dunno about, but I’m sure I can depend on you to
eloquently represent your people. Perhaps I’ll just
follow your advice, up sticks, and pay my taxes
somewhere else instead.
All this verbal masturbation will make you go blind,
you know. Any more insults in store for me or are
you done now?
brian, bela, and ivan, why dont u take your stupid little battles elsewhere? its so very boring really it is.
Obviously it was an act of desperation when the Pecs politicans sold parts of the waterworks company. Pecs apparently does not have the resources to manage the plant. So the Pecs received a large up-front sum of money for rights. The Hungarian governments are both broke a mismanaged. And more government owned assets will be sold in 2010 to raise monies to pay back the IMF, run socialist/welfare programs in magyarorszag.