December 22nd, 2009
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LCD TVs, netbooks and GPS locators most popular Hungarian gadget gifts for ’09

Hungarians are buying LCD TVs, GPS machines and netbooks for their loved ones for Christmas, while demand for last year’s favorite gift, game consoles, has fallen, writes IT news portal kutyu.hu, based on a top list compiled by depo.hu.

“While the superiority of game consoles was obvious last year – in December, five similar products were included in the top ten – this year, even the most in-demand machine only reached 19th place,” said László Szabari, business branch leader of depo.hu. “At the same time, LCD TVs occupy three places among the ten most demanded products.”

Another interesting finding of the depo.hu list is that while one of 2007′s most popular gifts, digital cameras, are no longer among favorites, a digital photo frame occupies 4th place this year.

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  1. JD says:

    It’s just too bad that Hungarians have to pay nearly twice the price here for the same thing as in the UK (if it is even available here). And believe me, it is often nearly twice the price!!

  2. Benny the dwarf says:

    Never fails to amaze me. The economy is in tatters,
    everyone is complaining of job insecurity, low
    incomes blah blah. Meanwhile those poor Hungarians
    that don’t already have LCD tvs, GPS units, and game
    netbooks are snapping them up. And those that
    already have all these items which don’t feature
    high on Maslow’s hierarchy of needs are spending
    their hard-earned on one of the most useless things
    I can ever imagine… digital photo frames. Me, I
    have none of these and don’t plan on getting them
    either. And perhaps that’s why I’m not complaining
    about being poor.

  3. wolfi says:

    @Benny:

    And You and I don’t have to pay those 35 % THM…

  4. YuletideGreetings says:

    Benny you are better off playing with your train set in a cave. No central heating bills,electricity or taxes to pay. A simple candle-lit dinner with a dwarf of your dreams, listening to Christmas carols
    sung by the local choir…heaven on earth?
    The alternative is buying inferior goods at CBA and Tesco and paying a fortune for them. And for your troubles getting knocked about by ignorant shoppers
    doing there last-minute panic buying.
    I have my palinka – 3000 forint for one and a half litres. Courtesy of my neighbour. Just enough to get me over the Xmas.

  5. Benny the dwarf says:

    @Yuletide, bring the palinka over to my cave and
    I’ll let you play with my train set.

  6. wolfi says:

    @Yuletide:

    So you also bought the palinka in a plastic mineral water bottle ?

    I transfer it quickly into glass bottles, don’t know what the 50% plus (should be 120proof in english units ?) does to the plastic.

    At least I can choose from my neighbours cherry and apricot – both very nice, hicks!

  7. Pie-thag-oras says:

    Wolfi. I don’t like the plastic bottles they use, either. I transfer to glass ASAP. Tastes better as well! My favorite is the palinka made from pears.
    Got a delivery of the apple variety yesterday.
    Reserve comment for the moment.
    Fermat’s Last Theorem. What do you know about that..
    being a retired mathematician?

  8. wolfi says:

    @pythagoras:

    Yes, there are are lot of good varieties of palinka around – of course also a lot of bad stuff, “szeszes ital”.

    I don’t drink too much of it, but it also comes in handy for christmas presents.

    Real soon now we’ll also get some apple and pear to try…

    About Fermat’s theorem: It’s been proved, but in a really complicated roundabout way, I probably wouldn’t understand the detailed proof myself. It is based on something called generalized elliptic functions, real heady stuff…

  9. Pythagoras says:

    Wolfi. Thanks. I recorded a program sometime ago involving an American mathematician (?) who solved
    what I believe was just the Pythagoras theorem
    anyway. X2 x Y2 = Z2. No other set of numbers exist that follow this equation. This is the best way I can describe it, but I’m sure you follow.
    In the number crunching exercise there was one very important factor that was completely overlooked.
    So simple it would make you cringe. It would need the trinity of a mathematician, a musician, and a physicist, to explain just why.
    I haven’t been at the palinka yet, either.
    Happy days!

  10. Benny the failed mathematician says:

    I think you’re mixing up Pythagarus’ theorem about
    the right-angled triangle:

    a2 + b2 = c2, where c represents the length of
    the hypotenuse, and a and b represent the lengths
    of the other two sides

    with Fermat’s:

    no three positive integers a, b, and c can satisfy
    the equation an + bn = cn for any integer value of
    n greater than two

    I guess they look superficially related.
    Nevertheless I think I saw that documentary you
    mentioned. It was about the very complicated proof
    of Fermat’s theorem which turned out to be flawed
    - later on it was corrected and now the proof is
    accepted. You can read all about it on
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermat's_Last_Theorem
    in the section “Mile’s General Proof”

  11. wolfi says:

    @Benny and Pythagoras:

    This matter is so complicated that we probably would need a few palinkas first in order to get a feel for it – I’m not saying we would understand it…

    BTW it was a British mathematician and his name is Wiles…

    If you want to look at something really incomprehensible look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiles%27_proof_of_Fermat%27s_Last_Theorem

    Einstein’s Relativity Theory is child’s play compared to this.

    So let’s just settle for the palinka, cheers everybody!

  12. Pistagoras says:

    Very bright for a dwarf, Benny. But there is a common denominator that links both Fermat’s Last Theorem and the Theorem of Pythagoras.
    (3×3)=9 + (4×4)=16 (5×5)= 25 The hypotenuse is the sum of the squares on the other two sides.
    Fermat’s Last Theorem can be proven without resorting to just the number-crunching aspect.
    Fermat said he had proof but didn’t publish. (I think he was lying.)
    Factor “X” which I am referring to is only known by
    myself. And shall remain that way.
    There is a good reason in a “physical” sense for the logic behind the equation in which Fermat packaged it.
    Forget about it, anyway. It is not a life-changing matter. Merrx Xmas. Palinka time.

  13. Benny the dwarf says:

    The fact is, I myself discovered an elementary proof
    of Fermat’s last theorem when I was out on the town
    one night a few years ago. I jotted it down on a
    napkin, and promptly forgot to take it home with me.
    When I went back to the restaurant in the morning
    there was no trace of it. And I was too hungover to
    remember it.

  14. Einstein says:

    C+B+A dumped Fermat’s Theorem and Tesco re-packaged it and dumped it on us.

  15. wolfi says:

    Well, it’s Christmas so let’s all have a real palinka – not the szeszes ital you get from CBA or Tesco, please …

    Merry Christmas or whatever holiday you might want to enjoy, to everybody, especially all the failed mathematical geniuses out there!

  16. wolfi says:

    @P.agorus:

    I hope you don’t have a headache today after drinking and writing all this heavy stuff yesterday…

    Cheers to mathematics, especially geometry!

  17. P:Agoras says:

    Thanks, Wolfi. I do not have a hangover.
    I am sorry I ever mentioned Fermat or, for that matter, Pythagoras.
    I have embarked on further investigations and, my goodness, you would not believe the amount of information directly, and indirectly related to
    the Pythagoras and Fermat theories.
    It is holiday time so I will relent on the “heavy”
    stuff. I mean the theories – not drink.
    Cheers for a bit!

  18. wolfi says:

    @P:Agoras:

    Good to hear that you are well, I wish you and everybody here the best for the rest of the holidays.

  19. Benny the dwarf says:

    Hungary had the highest retails sales spike (ie
    December sales vs adjacent months) of all the
    countries surveyed by Joel Waldfogel for his recent
    book Scroogenomics.

    Ref Slide 12 of
    http://www2.lse.ac.uk/publicEvents/pdf/20091203Scroo
    genomics.pdf

    Waldfogel’s thesis concerns the “deadweight loss of
    Christmas”, essentially money spent on unwanted
    presents. I expected Digital photo frames are well
    up there.

  20. Digitalframedodger says:

    Tesco along with CBA, as you know, Benny, are at the top of the shit heap as far as peddling over-priced rubbish is concerned.
    I did not indulge myself in any of the usual leisure activities this holiday. And saved myself a fortune. My neighbor was burgled on Christmas Eve and this added to the current doom and gloom atmosphere. I don’t know what the thieves stole but it is going to cost a fortune to get the damage they
    caused whilst breaking in.
    Sorry to relay this news but, there you are!
    Boldog Uj Évet!

  21. DFDodger. says:

    Apologies. I have reconstructed a defective sentence in my last posting:
    “IT is going to cost a fortune to replace the locks and doors (and iron gate) that the burglars damaged whilst breaking in.”